tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post7365458826633772198..comments2024-03-18T05:32:15.515-07:00Comments on The Pan Galactic Blogger Blaster: Gun SafetyNatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14704040638674512722noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-74210689547958997512015-12-22T00:52:47.674-08:002015-12-22T00:52:47.674-08:00Nice post. Gun safety is the main issue in US . Ho...Nice post. Gun safety is the main issue in US . Hope so that this will be solved soon as the no of mass killings has increased day by day and govt needs to take some stronger steps.<br />Regards:<br /><a href="http://www.bostonfirearms.com" rel="nofollow">Firearms safety training classes</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12455779831351440576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-91409143278039116312015-12-13T17:40:26.913-08:002015-12-13T17:40:26.913-08:00Nate, I DID type "EVEN IF".
"The g...Nate, I DID type "EVEN IF".<br /><br />"The guy in question, according to his description of events, never chambered a round."<br /><br />Which, obviously, has to be a God-damned lie. There's no way to cycle the action to load a round with a safety fail. Hopefully Taurus' lawyers won't have their heads FULLY seated in their own arses.<br /><br />Wow... I didn't think of that... but I ain't thinking too well lately.<br />MichaelJMaierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15840008044142730420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-67234821338314646732015-12-12T12:03:57.420-08:002015-12-12T12:03:57.420-08:00What in the--? Why are people even buying these th...<b>What in the--? Why are people even buying these things?</b><br />MPAIAJW308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-220427436245545922015-12-11T08:48:14.785-08:002015-12-11T08:48:14.785-08:00In the article, it's stated that the lawyer ha...In the article, it's stated that the lawyer handling the case has drop-tested the Taurus pistols in question, and during drop tests the trigger cycles. Ok. If (big if), there is enough mass in the trigger group for an impact to cause it to cycle, that has no bearing on this case. The guy doesn't say he smacked the butt of the pistol, he said he hit the bottom of the mag. <br /><br />And in the video shown of the pistol firing by being shaken, note that he chambers a round first. The guy in question, according to his description of events, never chambered a round.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01398111375918398229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-17273497243188014492015-12-11T08:37:32.694-08:002015-12-11T08:37:32.694-08:00I read the linked article about the guy that murde...I read the linked article about the guy that murdered his son, and is now suing Tarus. The sequence of events, as described, make no sense. According to the article: He inserted a mag, the mag didn't seat properly, so he hit the mag with his hand, and the pistol discharged. <br /><br />1) How did a round get in the chamber? He had to have racked the slide.<br />2) If the mag was not seated, and not seated so much it was obvious to the naked eye, racking the slide should have resulted in a jam.<br />3) Those pistols have one of those transfer bar things, the firing pin does not rest on the cartridge. Thus, the trigger mechanism has to be engaged for the firing pin to contact the cartridge.<br />4) Slapping a pistol, even if the firing pin is resting on the cartridge, should not be enough force to ignite the primer, you'd have to seriously whack it.<br /><br />My guess; The safety was off, he inserted a mag, racked the slide, put his finger on the trigger and tried to manipulate the pistol while holding his finger on the trigger, resulting in an accidental discharge just through his natural gripping action. Then concocted this bull crap about the mag not seating.<br /><br />They should charge him with murder. His story is totally not credible.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01398111375918398229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-4819477645154407122015-12-11T07:30:44.480-08:002015-12-11T07:30:44.480-08:00"Hit the wife and killed the kid. IIRC, he sl..."Hit the wife and killed the kid. IIRC, he slapped the magazine or something and said it went off."<br /><br />and yet as far as I've seen... no one has been able to reproduce this effect.<br /><br />show me your shocked face.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-69567164284730675852015-12-10T20:22:26.922-08:002015-12-10T20:22:26.922-08:00Glock leg is mostly about reholstering, no?
I li...Glock leg is mostly about reholstering, no? <br /><br />I like a thumb safety.thimscoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12289986829453164335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-37084540883871734722015-12-10T16:39:10.243-08:002015-12-10T16:39:10.243-08:00This is why the recent Taurus thing was such garba...This is why the recent Taurus thing was such garbage. Even if he had a major gun fail, the man involved had his pistol loaded and pointed at and shot his wife and kid. Hit the wife and killed the kid. IIRC, he slapped the magazine or something and said it went off.<br /><br />100% his own damn fault his son is dead... but yeah... let's sue Taurus...<br /><br />http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/11/alabama_man_files_lawsuit_agai.html MichaelJMaierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15840008044142730420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-89298181250796882682015-12-10T14:15:12.167-08:002015-12-10T14:15:12.167-08:00But these pieces of shit are more in the under 100...<b>But these pieces of shit are more in the under 100 market.</b><br /><br />I hear ya. My first handgun, bought because I needed it for protection, was a 44 mag. I was working on a ranch in grizzly country at the time. I was making $200 a week on the ranch and a some extra cash as a sous chief at night. I was still able to scrape together enough cash to buy a lightly used 629 S&W, holster and 3 boxes of ammo. I didn't reload in those days so I had to buy all my ammo. I still managed to get out and practice regularly.Res Ipsahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16433725505878267643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-647178884815119892015-12-10T12:45:20.292-08:002015-12-10T12:45:20.292-08:00I agree Bill.
I think it goes a couple of ways......I agree Bill.<br /><br />I think it goes a couple of ways... and before we get to those we have to remember that a lot of "accidents" were not. they just say they were to make everyone feel better. particularly in the case of cop.. suicides are often called accidents.<br /><br />I figure in the case like the glock... people drop the mag... think its safe... pull the trigger forgetting one is in the chamber.. shooting themselves in the hand, arm, or leg.<br /><br />or...<br /><br />in this case... I think he was probably putting the gun into his pocket and had it angled toward himself... released the safety and it fired.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-84234484615404772312015-12-10T12:29:45.127-08:002015-12-10T12:29:45.127-08:00"an unintentional discharge when releasing th..."an unintentional discharge when releasing the safety" Yeah, weapon malfunctions can get people shot - I agree with all that - don't buy crappy Sat night specials.<br /><br />But still, I hear about people getting shot "cleaning their guns". I can't figure what their cleaning protocol is...<br /><br />1) Unload Weapon - point at leg, squeeze trigger BANG - weapon no longer loaded.<br />2) Open slide, inspect chamber<br />3) Clean weapon<br />Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01398111375918398229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-65341679398565113792015-12-10T12:28:21.948-08:002015-12-10T12:28:21.948-08:00agree completely res. There are a lot of reliable...agree completely res. There are a lot of reliable options out there in the under 500 market.<br /><br />But these pieces of shit are more in the under 100 market.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-78747248615693603722015-12-10T12:17:05.366-08:002015-12-10T12:17:05.366-08:00Without being there it's hard to say what the ...Without being there it's hard to say what the cause of the accident was. FWIW most of the time it is operator error. Followed by malfunction as a much less likely reason. I'm not trying to blame the guy but that barrel should never been pointed at his body.<br /><br />When it comes to "cheap" guns I've got mixed emotions. First, I'm a connoisseur of firearms and I'd rather buy something that exactly fits my criteria (or have it made). On the other hand, I've learned what I like by buying and sell off different guns over the years. A inexpensive gun doesn't have to be an unsafe or unreliable gun. <br /><br />The two firearms I'm most likely to carry concealed are pricey by some peoples standards. The first, a 45 retails for around $1,300, the second a 9mm retails for $750. I didn't pay that for either of them. Each gun fits a specific niche. Each gun was when I bought it, and still is exactly what I wanted and does what its supposed to.<br /><br />IF a guy is making $15/hour he can realistically save up $25 per week which means he can buy one in about 9 months and have another $500 bucks towards ammo and accessories by the end of a year, the 45 would take him a little over a year to save for. That's if he wants to buy upper end off the shelf guns. He doesn't have to. There are lots of good solid choices in the $300 to $500 range. There is never any reason to buy a gun with questionable safety or reliability issues.Res Ipsahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16433725505878267643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-79534070939222388052015-12-10T11:45:12.781-08:002015-12-10T11:45:12.781-08:00Excellent post and great reminders, especially for...Excellent post and great reminders, especially for anyone new to owning firearms.WaterBoynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-51036561551168861852015-12-10T10:50:56.989-08:002015-12-10T10:50:56.989-08:00actually rabbi you can carry with an empty round u...actually rabbi you can carry with an empty round under the hammer on a revolver... because the cylinder rotates as you pull the trigger. so the round there is not the one that actually fires. Its the one next to it that fires.<br /><br />Still you've only got 6 shots. You really shouldn't give up a round for the fasle sense of securityNatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-55074925431952925352015-12-10T10:44:11.520-08:002015-12-10T10:44:11.520-08:00I carry either a .357 revolver or a .45ACP semi. D...I carry either a .357 revolver or a .45ACP semi. Depends on what I am wearing and where I am going. I like the wheel gun, but I get twice as many rounds in the .45.Clinthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115477968909230433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-65447518711745864522015-12-10T10:42:41.491-08:002015-12-10T10:42:41.491-08:00I never worried about with the wheel gun, and it m...I never worried about with the wheel gun, and it made sense to carry with a chambered round, or what's the point. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-17042719698016538122015-12-10T10:38:43.609-08:002015-12-10T10:38:43.609-08:00Good Post. Good Reminder.Good Post. Good Reminder.jamscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07115579457644087824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-26278160566285347402015-12-10T10:36:40.535-08:002015-12-10T10:36:40.535-08:00Rabbi, you can chamber a round. That is what the s...Rabbi, you can chamber a round. That is what the safety is for. The key is to practice drawing the firearm over and over until it is second nature. Know where your fingers go, etc. <br /><br />On the topic of safety - people forget that any firearm is dangerous. When I was a teenager, one of my little brother's friends was killed by at .22. He was out with some other friends (my bro was not there, thank God), and one of them shot him right in the eye and it entered his brain. He died a few hours later.Clinthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115477968909230433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-14258124489739729552015-12-10T10:36:14.113-08:002015-12-10T10:36:14.113-08:00Rabbi... if you're not going to carry one with...Rabbi... if you're not going to carry one with a round in the chamber... there is no sense in bothering to carry one at all.<br /><br />We always carry handguns with a round in the chamber. Always.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-86281480539058518722015-12-10T10:30:08.748-08:002015-12-10T10:30:08.748-08:00OK, Dumb Guy Question about conceal carry:
If I a...OK, Dumb Guy Question about conceal carry:<br /><br />If I am carrying a semi-auto handgun, is it OK to carry with a chambered round or not? It seems to me IO want to be able to point and shoot and not worry about chambering a round if I find myself in a situation.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-71485701453144814542015-12-10T10:18:01.140-08:002015-12-10T10:18:01.140-08:00well... an unintentional discharge when releasing ...well... an unintentional discharge when releasing the safety can sort of explain things. when you're dealing with shit products like this... you never know.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-57157079585784152532015-12-10T10:16:38.095-08:002015-12-10T10:16:38.095-08:00I have never understood the "shot while clean...I have never understood the "shot while cleaning" phenomenon. The FIRST thing I do when picking up a pistol is rack the action or pop the cylinder. And shouldn't opening up the chamber be the first step in cleaning?Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01398111375918398229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-5411620740877241162015-12-10T10:11:51.683-08:002015-12-10T10:11:51.683-08:00Which is even more of a black eye on Jennings. If ...Which is even more of a black eye on Jennings. If the poor can only afford your weapons, you best make sure the damn things work properly.Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06204019386677018162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-57037898408411138582015-12-10T09:34:54.072-08:002015-12-10T09:34:54.072-08:00As for who buys these cheap pistols... poor peopl...As for who buys these cheap pistols... poor people. you can get one of these for under 100 bucks.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.com