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http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?si...For example:<br /><br />http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3153978<br /><br />As I noted:<br /><br /><i>A Pinwheel explodes/implodes (that is the question at hand, inflation/deflation) the moment A SINGLE LINK IN THE KITED CHECK CHAIN BOUNCES.</i><br /><br />Too Big to Fail is a misnomer. It is not largess but if it is a systemically critical node in the pinwheel.<br /><br />Therefore, the banks can launder $100 billion so the Mexican Cartels can buy anti-tank weapons, fund a DNAFTA "Chunnel" under the Rio Grande, and pay to assassinate US Citizens, yet doing more than extracting a few dollars (The Fed will supply in exchange for worthless toxic derivatives) will blow it up, so it will NEVER happen.<br />tzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14446437456939115403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-78085294012149534062013-03-07T14:37:57.669-08:002013-03-07T14:37:57.669-08:00Don't let Vox deceive you,there's quit a f...Don't let Vox deceive you,there's quit a few of us following this. I think I'm groking what you and Vox have written. Haven't spoken up because when the adults are talking its rude of the children to interrupt. <br /><br />I really hope this continues; I'll be pissed if something comes up and Vox or you can't continue. <br /><br />Thanks for the work, i'm learning as much as I did in my whole macro econ class.Slowpokenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-4057160148304718762013-03-07T12:09:13.300-08:002013-03-07T12:09:13.300-08:00Or there is a process that you do not anticipate.
...<b>Or there is a process that you do not anticipate.</b><br /><br />Saving your powder for Vox? If so, that's fine. I'll go back to waiting.Stilichonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-58988093219006213032013-03-07T12:01:59.576-08:002013-03-07T12:01:59.576-08:00"either you are being sarcastic, or you'v..."either you are being sarcastic, or you've completely disregarded what you learned from Keen re: the relationship of reserves to loans."<br /><br />Or there is a process that you do not anticipate.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-14510623326664226582013-03-07T10:59:18.557-08:002013-03-07T10:59:18.557-08:00Take a look at the Chinese residential real estate...Take a look at the Chinese residential real estate market. It is so bad that even 60 Minutes is talking about it. There's a government change in China right now, but in the next year this debacle will have to be dealt with one way or anther. Likely scenario from China: inflate. JartStarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10536294522950213358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-86571312081113736572013-03-07T10:05:26.124-08:002013-03-07T10:05:26.124-08:00ENTIRELY.
No deposits necessary to lend.
Doom I ...<b>ENTIRELY.<br /><br />No deposits necessary to lend.<br /><br />Doom I tell you. Total fucking DOOM.</b><br /><br />either you are being sarcastic, or you've completely disregarded what you learned from Keen re: the relationship of reserves to loans.<br /><br />I see that you are now back to denying credit money. Interesting.Stilichonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-78546160456708492102013-03-06T20:40:53.345-08:002013-03-06T20:40:53.345-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-41209165646176820172013-03-06T20:40:52.745-08:002013-03-06T20:40:52.745-08:00"Or they can simply tell banks, well, we insi..."Or they can simply tell banks, well, we insisted for every $10 of loans you reserve $1, now it is for every $20..."<br /><br />Indeed they can. In fact... not long ago the Fed was openly talking about eliminating reserve requirements entirely.<br /><br />ENTIRELY.<br /><br />No deposits necessary to lend.<br /><br />Doom I tell you. Total fucking DOOM.<br /><br />And I know... people think... Inflation will kill the fed! Of course it will. But what is the point of the fed?<br /><br />The fed exists to protect the interest of a small group of people. Inflate enough to give them time to bail out... then inflate more to give the next guys time.. and on and on..<br /><br />But it doesn't matter. The inflationary blow up won't actually come through new money.<br /><br />It will come when everyone up and decides they don't want dollars anymore and american are left holding the bag.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-91235438064451126142013-03-06T19:37:04.687-08:002013-03-06T19:37:04.687-08:00@TT, re: subcategory...
Yes, like subs, they are ...@TT, re: subcategory...<br /><br />Yes, like subs, they are underwater, under pressure, likely to be torpedoed and will lose all hands.<br />tzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14446437456939115403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-36914153434449934452013-03-06T19:30:37.670-08:002013-03-06T19:30:37.670-08:002) Inflation works in the short term. so... TPTB.....<i>2) Inflation works in the short term. so... TPTB... can create a bunch of money... dump it into M2 via government spending... and ***POOF*** inflation</i><br /><br />Or they can simply tell banks, well, we insisted for every $10 of loans you reserve $1, now it is for every $20...<br /><br />This involves no government spending.<br /><br />(Sorry to poke, but it is a point)<br />tzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14446437456939115403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-15509069828994064212013-03-06T19:27:46.783-08:002013-03-06T19:27:46.783-08:00and.. on top of all that... the big threat of hype...<i>and.. on top of all that... the big threat of hyper inflation... </i><br /><br />Do you mean in terms of money or an unhappy medium, fiduciary?tzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14446437456939115403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-8288552929145263242013-03-06T19:22:30.637-08:002013-03-06T19:22:30.637-08:00Great comeback, Nate.
Credit money is indeed a su...Great comeback, Nate.<br /><br />Credit money is indeed a subcategory, primarily a subcategory of fiat money.Toby Templenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-1156995924800968852013-03-06T18:58:00.389-08:002013-03-06T18:58:00.389-08:00and.. on top of all that... the big threat of hype...and.. on top of all that... the big threat of hyper inflation... doesn't require any of that to happen.<br /><br />in fact... the whole debt delivery system could break down completely.. and we can have hyper-inflation... with out one new cent.<br /><br />Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-47168078585094473052013-03-06T18:56:39.617-08:002013-03-06T18:56:39.617-08:00You guys are forgetting a few really key factors.
...You guys are forgetting a few really key factors.<br /><br />1) Those in charge... in their hearts are Keynesian. They actually believe... inflation is good. Not bad. To them... deflation is WAY worse. To a keynesian.. deflation.. is DOOM.<br /><br />2) Inflation works in the short term. so... TPTB... can create a bunch of money... dump it into M2 via government spending... and ***POOF*** inflation. IE... they can announce a minimum income for american citizens... monetize the debt to pay for it... and inflate that way as well.<br /><br />Against the rules you say? <br /><br />Rules????<br /><br />RULES????<br /><br />What freaking world do you live in?<br /><br />There are no rules.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962463170236658764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6768209.post-72005764368791502942013-03-06T18:53:02.141-08:002013-03-06T18:53:02.141-08:00people people people...
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