Friday, November 08, 2013

ATF: Nukes and Pussy Riot!

Well... damned if it ain't that time again.  In theory we're gonna have six back tonight... Thanks be to God Himself.  Man am I sick of pulling this cart by own self.

A:  Bourbon.  Dammit.   Lots of it.

T:  Romeo

F: Many.  Many.  Many.

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21 comments:

Raggededge said...

A: El Modelo Especial

T: None

F: Accura MR SS/RT .50 Muzzeloader. Oh yeah, Mr. Big Buck is toast tomorrow morning.

Luke said...

A: Shock Top Pumpkin Wheat. Go ahead and judge me.

T: Gurkha 125

F: LRB M14

Vidad said...

A: Buchanan's De Luxe 12yr Scotch
T: La Gloria Cubana N series
F: NONE! GUNS KILL PEEPS OMG OMG

Nate said...

I normally don't feel this way at all ... but that felt... like a very.. good show.

Raggededge said...

Exactly how much bourbon did you drink?

Nate said...

bourbon? some... probably the equivalent of.... 5 or 6 shots.

That's no including the copious moonshine and beer throughout the show.

WaterBoy said...

A: Bodegas Triton 2008 Tempranillo
T: Joya de Nicaragua
F: Yes

For Res Ipsa and Cheddarman, and anyone else interested in the effects of freezing on a cigar:

This is from a wrapped cigar placed in a freezer for about 24 hours. The cigar was a Tatiana miniature from my wife's stash. Hey, I wasn't going to risk ruining a regular full-size cigar; I may be eccentric, but I ain't stupid.

When I took it out of the freezer, the wrapper had tiny dots of frozen condensation on the inside of the wrapper. This could have been moisture escaping from the tobacco as it chilled, or it could have been from vapor already inside the wrapper. Either way, the freezing lowered the dewpoint to cause condensation before freezing it. It also means that if any sublimation does occur, it will also condense and freeze because the moisture cannot escape into open air. I don't think storing them in a plastic bag will prevent this from happening, either.

The integrity of the construction help up perfectly, contrary to what I feared might happen. The draw and the burn were unaffected, in comparison to unfrozen cigars of the same kind.

The taste was also unaffected, again in comparison with others. An interesting side note was that the first couple of draws were nice and cool, similar to smoking through a hookah. After that, the smoke warmed the tobacco up and the rest of it smoked normally.

Conclusion: Res, I wouldn't worry about it if they do freeze. It would still be a good idea to store them in a plastic bag (or travel humidor, if possible) to prevent them from drying out when they aren't at risk of freezing, though. This was only for one day, though, so if they're exposed for a longer period of time, YMMV.

WaterBoy said...

"Shock Top Pumpkin Wheat"

Damn good beer. The pumpkin was just a hint, not overwhelming at all.

Susan said...

Waterboy

Reading your comment, I had a question about temporary storage of cigars for you.

What if Res removed loose wrapping from cigar and maybe fiddled with one of those vacuum "seal a meal" type machines, and maybe sealed it one cigar at a time, so each is vacuum sealed with no air?

They are gentle enough now that they won't crush and flatten more delicate things. Like a nice cigar.

Just a thought.

Susan said...

How's the kitchen remodel going Nate? I truly hope you and Dr. Who did not have one of those nightmare scenarios that the magazines like to publish from time to time.

Raggededge said...

Oh, hell yeah!

Gotta love opening day of muzzleloader.

Nate said...

Raggededge!!

HELL YEAH!

Nate said...

Susan

Kitchen is badass. working out fine. more to do.

WaterBoy said...

Susan: "They are gentle enough now that they won't crush and flatten more delicate things. Like a nice cigar."

That's an interesting idea, Susan, but I'm not sure it would work. Those operate via vacuum sealing; unless it removed all of the air from the sleeve -- including what is in the cigar -- it would still leave space for evaporation/sublimation to occur. And sucking the air out of the cigar would probably crush it, at least a little bit.

But I have the device you are talking about, so I will try it out...using one of those tiny cigars, of course. ;)

WaterBoy said...

Congrats, Raggededge! Nice buck.

Raggededge said...

Thanks, guys. I saw that buck twice during bow season. Both times at around 70-75 yards, so I knew I'd have a shot at him once Muzzeloader opened up. I wasn't in the stand 20 minutes when he came by chasing a doe.

Nate said...

damn rut doesn't come in down here until january... and most years it starts the week after the season is over.

pisses me off.

Anonymous said...

A: Knob Creek

T: Aurora 1495 Series (Churchill)

F: Browning High Power circa 1969 (yeah, I know, it's a 9, but it's still a Browning and it looks almost new, dammit)

Good show. I think Nate should drink moonshine every show...

toothy

Res Ipsa said...

My Cigar experience.

I went out for a quick elk/deer trip this sat. The cigar was a Author Fuentes Gran Reserva. I don't have any girly cigars. My "method" if you want to call it that evolves leaving the cigar in the cellophane wrapper and wringing all the water out of a paper towel and then wrapping the paper towel around the cigar and putting it in a sealed ziplock bag. I know Nate just spewed his bourbon all over his key board.

Anyway, it froze over night in the truck. The outer wrapper became somewhat flakey but the taste and draw were unaffected. The cigar had one seem in the middle that burned at a slower rate than the rest. This was curious but didn't affect my enjoyment. When the cigar burned down to the last 1/4 of the cigar, the wrapper flaked off from the heat. By flaked off I mean that it literally just fell apart as the heat worked on it from the inside. I probably lost 10 or 12 of the last puffs. I haven't had this happen before.

Over all the smoke wasn't 100% but it wasn't the end of the world either. I suspect that if I had spent a week or two and it was the last day that the cigar would have been even worse.

I think cigars are like a good women, they should be kept moist and warm for optimum enjoyment. If you're in elk camp you don't turn down the good just because its not perfect.

cheddarman said...

A few notes on cigars and freezing:

If you want to freeze for long term storage, place the cigars in a ziploc bag in a tupperware cotainer with some additional packing material, such as packing peanuts, crumpled paper, etc

frost free freezers undergo a freeze thaw cycle that can form large ice crystals in your food or cigars. the extra container and packing helps limit formation of ice and problems associated with it.

- cheddarman

Vidad said...

Buffalo Trace: Not bad. Smokier than most bourbons.