Ok well I mounted a cheap light to the rail on my 92F and put a box of rounds through it. It held up just fine. The light mount is flimsy and cheap so if it failed I have no idea what I would've blamed for it.. the light or the rail... but it didn't fail so I'm out ok I suppose. I wanted a cheap piece on it because I figured if a cheap one didn't fail then your good stuff isn't likely to fail either.
Like I say it doesn't lock up tight... but its a flashlight so it doesn't have to.
I can't say it changed the way the weapon ran. I blasted away with reckless abandon trying to make it let go and it never did.
So there ya go... if you are looking to add a rail to a pistol of yours... this is a real option.
And you can get them off amazon.
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Ok, now I want a full size 9mm. I've narrowed it down to the 92FS or a Sig P226. I was pretty impressed with Beretta's service that you got when it blew apart due to faulty ammo. Decisions, decisions.
can't go wrong either way.
I think most people would say Sig has a better trigger.
Your best bet is to by one of each and see for yourself. You can never have to many guns.
You can never have to many guns.
True, but can one have too many 9mm's?
I certainly don't see the point of having two full size 9mms. I have the 92sf and I certainly wouldn't go buy another one.
actually...
yeah... I would...
A competition rig in 9mm would be cool. Preferably one based on a cz75..
No way. A toy is a toy, have as many as you like.
I think most of the anti 9mm stuff around here is because of some folks trying to claim a 9mm is JUST AS GOOD as a more powerful cartridge. No one is going to tell you not to have one or enjoy shooting it. If the 9 is an only choice for self defense for some legitimate reason then you won't get an argument about that either. It's just not the best choice for most applications most of the time.
I don't know how many times we've rehashed the "not as good as" debate either here or at Vox's place. The 9mm is good, for lots of stuff, its just not the best when it comes to knocking down the bad guys.
In a life or death situation what would you rather be shooting at the bad guy, a 22LR in a break action single shot or from the inside of an Abrams? Me I'm going for the tank and all the close air support I can get. That's not likely to happen at my house. If the choice is between a 9mm and a 44mag which gun is going to do a better job stopping the attacker?
That's the only point against the 9mm that is ever really made here. If the choice is a 9mm or a 380, 32acp, 25 acp, etc then obviously go with the 9. If there is some reason that a 9mm is the best you can get, use it for defense just don't try convincing everyone you're in a tank.
Ugghh, another one I looked at, the CZ75. There is just a glut of really nice pistols out there to choose from. Life is just so rough right now.
Res,
Good points about 9mm. I did a poor job of articulating what I was trying to say in the other post. To me, after doing the research, shot placement is way more critical than caliber alone. Of course, if you have good shot placement with a large caliber weapon, that is preferable to good shot placement with a smaller caliber weapon.
Shot placement is what 9mm fans bring up to change the subject.
But Res is right. If your choice is 25acp... 32acp... 380... or 9mm...
You take the 9mm every time.
My shot placement drill is shooting a 3x5 card. If you can control placement enough to hit that every time you are doing well. Just do it with something
that starts with a 4.
yep. if you can hit 3x5 index card in different positions from 10 feet away every time at any kind of speed... you will win just about any gun fight you find yourself in.
Rob Leatham ain't kicking in your door.
obviously a range full of beer cans is another good test. set them up all over the place at different heights and distances.
Then just mow them all down.
If you knock 90% them down on one shot.... then you're gold.
Shot placement is what 9mm fans bring up to change the subject.
I'm going to take my M9 and M40 out this week and do the 3x5 card test that Res recommends. For whatever reason, I tend to shoot tighter groups with the M9 than the M40. Maybe I just need to get my shit together and start putting as many rounds through my M40 as I do my M9.
Nate: "If you knock 90% them down on one shot.... then you're gold."
If you knock 90% of them down on one shot...you've gotten hold of a box of Oswald's Magic Bullet ammo.
Raggededge
Let us know how it works out.
Well, I didn't have any 3x5 cards, but I did have some 3.5"x3.5" post-it notes. From 10yds out, the groupings with both the 40 and the 9 were very similar. From 25yds out, I was 3 for 3 with the 9 and 1 for 3 with the 40. In all fairness, 2 of the 25yd shots with the 9 nicked the outside edge of the post-it.
I usually shoot steel and what I found interesting with this exercise is how much more focused you need to be when aiming at a defined target. I'm definitely going to make this part of my shooting routine moving forward.
Raggededge,
The 3x5 card method is the second least expensive method and one of the best ones I know for improving shot placement, recoil control and trigger control. A pack of 3x5 cards cost about 89cents and you can use a staple gun to stick them on posts or tape them on tactical targets.
Dry fire draw, presentation, sight picture and snaps is the least expensive drill since you don't use any ammo and it is a very effective way to improve your ability to get a gun into action quickly and accurately. My personal recommendation to anyone with a DAO handgun is daily practice with this method until that trigger manipulation is automatic and smooth.
I'm not an expert shooter but I've learned some decent training tricks over the years. It doesn't take a lot of money to improve the average persons shooting proficiency. It doesn't take that much time either. 10 min a day of dry fire practice will cut time off of shooting scores simply by improving muscle memory and coordination.
FWIW you should score a nick on a 3x5 as a hit. If you imagine that 3X5 card placed over top of a human vital zone, any hit, even if it just cuts the edge of the card, still results in a substantial hit on target. Take a card and hold it over your vital zones and check it out in a mirror to see what I mean.
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