Thursday, May 30, 2013

ATF Show: Heads up

So tomorrow night we're gonna be covering "The Manly Arts".  That's right.  Is it ok for a man to cry... if so when?  Smokin'... drinkin'.. Makin' men out of boys.  That's what its about y'all.  smokin'.. drinkin'... cleanin' guns... protecting what's yours.

Bring what ya got.


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Giraffe said...

I can't make it tonight, but this is a topic that is timely. I'm having a huge problem at work that is probably going to cost a lot of money and the stress is unbelievable. It is having an effect on the Mrs. I find myself needing a lot of support from her and I know that isn't a good thing for a man. What's a man to do?

Nate said...

Chin up mate. Your attitude in rough times is a big deal to women. How you handle things... how they affect a bigger deal to them than the actual tangible issues. If it gets bad... but you just walk right through it... never waver... just keep right on fighting... and expecting her to fight with you... she'll be right there.

Chicks love to be on your team. they love to be on a mission with you.

Make it a mission.

Giraffe said...


Vidad said...

Also: start randomly buying stupid stuff on credit, eat a lot of cheese dip, start watching Star Trek: Voyager obsessively, drink cheap wine from the bottle, mumble to yourself and regularly forget things.

Vidad said...

Oh wait... that was the "things not to do" list.

Seriously... I know what that feels like. There are times my wife has been there just when I needed her and I've felt like she was the strong one.

In reality, though, that's not the case.

She's going to be there for you if she's a good woman, but if you start using her for support, she'll rapidly get fed up/start acting like she's your mom/get burned out/become snippy/etc. It's a weird thing - and she can't really help it. Even though my wife is the "1 in a 1000" from Proverbs, she still needs (and wants) a leader.

Being the guy is just a lonely business. But there are other guys who have your back. That said: I'm sending up a fer prayers for you right now.

Flannel Avenger said...

Ok... so in light of Vox's talk of the audiobook version of A Throne of Bones I would like to hear a short dramatic reading of one of his selenoth tales in the style of the Gay Mustachio takedown re-enactment.

The Hoblets of Wiccam Fensboro seems like an ideal candidate... I bet Vidad does a good hoblet impression.

Nate said...

wouldn't we first have to decide what hobs actually are?

Vidad said...

As tempting as it is... I couldn't do that to Vox.

He's standing up against the tide of feminism, perversion, etc. with his fiction writing and doing his part to bring some honor, realism, guts and glory to fantasy. The guy's got enough enemies. The last thing I want to do is mock one of the few people with enough chutzpah to quit complaining and actually write something worth reading.

Of course... there are a few other writers I wouldn't mind slaughtering...

Flannel Avenger said...

Not necessarily. That's the beauty of it. Whoever is doing the reading gets to give us his interpretation of what a hoblet is.

For more fun, we could get 6 or 7 people together and let a bunch of guys read.

Giraffe said...

"that was the "things not to do" list."

luckily I haven't been doing those things. I've lost ten pounds. Stress is a great diet aid.

Bottom line, I failed. Lots of things should have been done different, and not just by me. I think with what I've learned, I could do it now, but most likely it is too late. Forward is the only direction I can go.

But there are other guys who have your back

I have always been kinda a loner. I didn't really have any friends till lately. A guy from church has really been there for me during this time. I consider you guys to be my friends also. That may sound pathetic, but like I said. I'm a loner, friends were never a priority now that I'm married.

Thanks for the prayers and support.

Flannel Avenger said...

I suppose there's always Shakespeare if you don't want to tease Vox...

There is no line created to be satired more than Fly Fleance Fly

Nate said...

There is no such thing as a failure that keeps trying.

Coasting to the bottom is the only disgrace.

Get up. Try again.

Vidad said...


I refuse to attack Vox because he's standing up for Western Civ... and you jump right to Shakespeare???

Daaaaaayum!!! Wut? Wut? Yeah! Ima gonna go spit on the Mona Lisa, spraypaint "VIDAD" on the courthouse steps, then do a dubstep remix of some Chopin.

SDH said...

Sorry to hear you're in a tight spot Giraffe.

I can't give you any better advice than Vidad and Nate.

For the show tonight, it is never acceptable for a man to cry. Never.
Also, you need to come clean on the Six nick, 'cause every time you say it, I think this.

Nate said...

Lets just say that Six is a very important number to him... as it is a number that indicates an enormous blessing in his life.

Vidad said...

True, true.

However, the Fresh Prince is certainly a close second.

WaterBoy said...

Speaking of coming clean, SDH...what the hell is that avatar of yours?!?

SDH said...

SDH...what the hell is that avatar of yours

I work with people who think editing someone else's profile is hilarious.

...and well done Six.

Flannel Avenger said...

Let it never be said that I don't think big. LOL

Flannel Avenger said...

However, given some of the rulings to come out of the courts these days are you sure spraypainting "VIDAD" on the courthouse is entirely out of the picture?

Giraffe said...

There is no such thing as a failure that keeps trying.

I didn't quit. Just ran out of time.

Huckleberry - est. 1977 said...

Manly arts.
I've been meaning for a while to suggest that you add a "B" to "ATF" for builds, bikes, and general badassery. Projects and fabrication and such. I mean money and politics and the Decline of Western Civilization 3.0 is great and all, but some of us really would rather fiddle while the capitol burns.
Friday evening downtime the past few weeks for me has included restoration of a '70 Bultaco Matador, an extremely fun bike to take off-road. The challenge is part of the frame along one of the downtubes is bent badly, and I'm trying to figure out a good way to replace the bent section while still maintaining structural integrity. It's a fun headscratcher.
Times it's acceptable for man to cry (a little, not like a woman):
Death of a child (God forbid)
Death of a parent
Death of a good dog (and really this one should lapse with the passage of adolescence)
Disposal of a medically necessary amputated limb

Giraffe - Do what I do, bitch about it on your blog, with humor, and carry on at home.
Have a plan, preferably a good one, but really anything will do.
The worst thing you can say to your wife in times of even mild trouble is "I don't know."

Vidad said...

"Disposal of a medically necessary amputated limb"

You know, my 8-year-old son just asked if it was okay to cry if you lost your arm.

Matthew said...


I have a vague recollection of reading that you might be in Texas. A lot of the Ilk are here. At some point these online communities need to translate into real life connections. I'm automatthew at gmail dot com, if anyone wants to connect.

Giraffe said...

Bit further north, Matthew. South Dakota. (Lower Cryogenica).

WaterBoy said...

Vidad: "You know, my 8-year-old son just asked if it was okay to cry if you lost your arm."

Tell him, "It depends on what condition it's in when you find it."

brentg said...

It is OK to cry when your suburban painted like the General Lee goes up it smoke. Everyone understands that.